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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 9867030" data-attributes="member: 6802951">I think that the reason that modern D&D doesn't tend to get into the above example is less about combat-as-war being less popular (although it is), and more about gaming-as-war being less popular.People are playing more heroic characters, and adventures have become more about achieving a specific end rather than killing anyone in a specific uniform/of a specific race. D&D had its roots in wargaming, but attitudes have changed over the decades.Thus the interest in wiping out 20 orcs before they can react has waned, since "They're orcs" is no longer a valid reason to kill them. If the party has the opportunity for a perfect ambush, it stands to reason that they could avoid contact completely. Or the characters may wish to actually talk to the orcs to find their intentions before deciding that they need to be killed. That won't stop them stacking the odds, but it precludes just murdering them before they are aware of the party.There are other styles of film around, and even if the former are the only kind that you go to the cinema to watch, there is other media.The Lord of the rings combat is often a bit too flashy, but some of the stuff like the Game of Thrones/Knight of the seven Kingdoms and similar is less so.Now you can get less-cinematic combat in media, where things are set up so their opponents can't respond, and so the heroes are just killing their way through to show off how badass they are.  But that form of set-piece combat is less common in modern D&D due to the above attitude change.There is always the potential for a lateral adjustment of the aggregate, but respect of the time of the people involved in the game is also a thing. Different DMs are going to draw the line in different places, but there is some point where a combat is so trivial, it is not worth wasting the half-hour or whatever of game time on.People have more than one sense.People who often enter into dangerous situations where they rely on those senses can get very good at paying attention to them.</blockquote>

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