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<blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 6989977" data-attributes="member: 6778044">If the monsters are intelligent and have the opportunity to plan their attack, then their tactics are very deadly. Even if they don't have an opportunity to plan, I have general tactics that each type of monster is most likely to use.I find that a handful of standard humanoids - goblinkin, orcs, etc., are a challenge for even mid-level characters if played well. These creatures are feared by the general populace as ruthless warriors, and I expect them to act that way. But my players know this, and they plan their tactics accordingly. Yes, it can get deadly very quickly, but against a party of adventurers, those monsters are (usually) fighting for their lives. It should feel like it.I almost had a TPK with 8 hobgoblins at night when they attacked the party's camp from a distance. Even though they were at long range to start, they could see the characters due to their fire, were behind cover, and the party couldn't see the hobgoblins at all. Trying to charge them was soon discovered to be a bad idea, so they had to find a different tactic. It was very, very tough.They learned really quickly that they need to work together and have some good tactics. Some of which include diving for cover and running away.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ilbranteloth, post: 6989977, member: 6778044"] If the monsters are intelligent and have the opportunity to plan their attack, then their tactics are very deadly. Even if they don't have an opportunity to plan, I have general tactics that each type of monster is most likely to use. I find that a handful of standard humanoids - goblinkin, orcs, etc., are a challenge for even mid-level characters if played well. These creatures are feared by the general populace as ruthless warriors, and I expect them to act that way. But my players know this, and they plan their tactics accordingly. Yes, it can get deadly very quickly, but against a party of adventurers, those monsters are (usually) fighting for their lives. It should feel like it. I almost had a TPK with 8 hobgoblins at night when they attacked the party's camp from a distance. Even though they were at long range to start, they could see the characters due to their fire, were behind cover, and the party couldn't see the hobgoblins at all. Trying to charge them was soon discovered to be a bad idea, so they had to find a different tactic. It was very, very tough. They learned really quickly that they need to work together and have some good tactics. Some of which include diving for cover and running away. [/QUOTE]

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