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<blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 7868442" data-attributes="member: 6775477"><p>The problem is that there's a LOT of overlap between the two. Lies require using the right arguments/rhetoric/appeals, just as persuasion does, just not using the truth. This is why IMO the use of two different skills is pointless.</p><p></p><p>Well, I guess both our cases are anecdotal. Of course, I personally think the number of people who suck at lying is much smaller than appears. For example, my wife is convinced I suck at lying due to a long process I've developed over the years giving her that impression; when I do lie she has no suspicion whatsoever (which is how I've managed to pull off surprise parties, which the only thing I've really ever lied to her about). I suspect that others do the same, but on a wider spectrum than just a single person.</p><p></p><p>Oh, the original example would totally be a deception check. The player's intent is to deceive, and there's nothing in the RP that would likely go against that. The problem is usually when someone tries to use the deception skill, but just tells the truth during the RP (or the opposite with persuasion).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shiroiken, post: 7868442, member: 6775477"] The problem is that there's a LOT of overlap between the two. Lies require using the right arguments/rhetoric/appeals, just as persuasion does, just not using the truth. This is why IMO the use of two different skills is pointless. Well, I guess both our cases are anecdotal. Of course, I personally think the number of people who suck at lying is much smaller than appears. For example, my wife is convinced I suck at lying due to a long process I've developed over the years giving her that impression; when I do lie she has no suspicion whatsoever (which is how I've managed to pull off surprise parties, which the only thing I've really ever lied to her about). I suspect that others do the same, but on a wider spectrum than just a single person. Oh, the original example would totally be a deception check. The player's intent is to deceive, and there's nothing in the RP that would likely go against that. The problem is usually when someone tries to use the deception skill, but just tells the truth during the RP (or the opposite with persuasion). [/QUOTE]
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