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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 5997562" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey Fieari mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Well I think the answer lies in Anti-matter. Indeed some Umbrals are anti-matter (some anti-time, some anti-spirit and so on). Obviously it must be protected in some way against matter (or time or spirit etc.) to exist in our universe without spontaneously destroying itself (such as coming into contact with air molecules).So its 'hit points' might be more like Resist All which you need to degrade.Maybe it simply gets converted to negative dimensions and Byss could be a great barrier.As above, I think its tailored to the specific type of Umbral. So with an anti-matter Umbral you'd need to feed it matter (ie. hit it). With one of the anti-time Umbrals you need to feed it 'time'. This might be something simple like having it physically manifest long enough to burn itself out (for a weaker Umbral).Of course the key problem is that whatever hits it is usually destroyed in the process.I remember a few months ago researching the OD&amp;D Blackballs and there was basically the (relatively) easy version (which you could fight in a few ways) and the hard version (which you couldn't* and was a lot more plot device-y).*Gate, Wish and Miracle worked on it.I prefer the version where you can fight it. I just think it should be incredibly difficult to do so. Not only does it deal permanent damage but you also take backlash damage hurting it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 5997562, member: 326"] Hey Fieari mate! :) Well I think the answer lies in Anti-matter. Indeed some Umbrals are anti-matter (some anti-time, some anti-spirit and so on). Obviously it must be protected in some way against matter (or time or spirit etc.) to exist in our universe without spontaneously destroying itself (such as coming into contact with air molecules). So its 'hit points' might be more like Resist All which you need to degrade. Maybe it simply gets converted to negative dimensions and Byss could be a great barrier. As above, I think its tailored to the specific type of Umbral. So with an anti-matter Umbral you'd need to feed it matter (ie. hit it). With one of the anti-time Umbrals you need to feed it 'time'. This might be something simple like having it physically manifest long enough to burn itself out (for a weaker Umbral). Of course the key problem is that whatever hits it is usually destroyed in the process. I remember a few months ago researching the OD&D Blackballs and there was basically the (relatively) easy version (which you could fight in a few ways) and the hard version (which you couldn't* and was a lot more plot device-y). *Gate, Wish and Miracle worked on it. I prefer the version where you can fight it. I just think it should be incredibly difficult to do so. Not only does it deal permanent damage but you also take backlash damage hurting it. [/QUOTE]

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