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<blockquote data-quote="Zimri" data-source="post: 4111869" data-attributes="member: 15991">[sarcasm]Wow so every table prior to the warlord was one of utopian delight with no overbearing players trying to tell others how or what to play, where to move, what to use , what feats to take. Then came the 4E bane of existence &quot;the Warlord&quot; Since no one had ever acted abusively or smarter and better than thou at a gaming table before we just weren't prepared with any ways at all to handle this antisocial behaviour at our table[/sarcasm]Abusive people are abusive people they existed before the warlord , they will exist after the warlord. If someone isn't a fit for your table and will not adjust to your tables playstyle (at mine it will be the &quot;bob you can move here if you like due to my power&quot;) then do what has always been done invite them to not return. If the tables playstyle favours his taking over and you don't like it decide if it is a deal breaker for you then leave the table or put up with it. He was likely a minmaxer who told you how shoddy your character was anyway, or how you were doing something wrong. This rule won't make any new abusive people, it may expose some or draw some into the hobby but thats a different egg for a different basket.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zimri, post: 4111869, member: 15991"] [sarcasm]Wow so every table prior to the warlord was one of utopian delight with no overbearing players trying to tell others how or what to play, where to move, what to use , what feats to take. Then came the 4E bane of existence "the Warlord" Since no one had ever acted abusively or smarter and better than thou at a gaming table before we just weren't prepared with any ways at all to handle this antisocial behaviour at our table[/sarcasm] Abusive people are abusive people they existed before the warlord , they will exist after the warlord. If someone isn't a fit for your table and will not adjust to your tables playstyle (at mine it will be the "bob you can move here if you like due to my power") then do what has always been done invite them to not return. If the tables playstyle favours his taking over and you don't like it decide if it is a deal breaker for you then leave the table or put up with it. He was likely a minmaxer who told you how shoddy your character was anyway, or how you were doing something wrong. This rule won't make any new abusive people, it may expose some or draw some into the hobby but thats a different egg for a different basket. [/QUOTE]

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