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How do you make humans worth LA +1?
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<blockquote data-quote="Imret" data-source="post: 2761718" data-attributes="member: 991"><p>Thought I'd stick my head in and see what's come up so far:</p><p></p><p>Caliban, the all skills are class skills is fairly substantial when using Unearthed Arcana's generic classes; it takes out a lot of the incentive to multi-class into expert, and since class abilities are now feats with mostly skill-based prerequisites, it's a fairly big boost to be that much closer to any abilities you'd like.</p><p></p><p>I'm pretty sure the prestige class one isn't going to make it; I'm boiling the "general" ones (swashbucklers, dual-weapon specialists) into feat chains and the rest will be part of organizations you <strong>commit</strong> to. Reputation bonuses, enemies, superiors, new goals...a prestige class should be <strong>prestigious</strong>! The single reroll per game session is too much like another Destiny token, really.</p><p></p><p>You seem to have generated a fairly popular idea with the +2 floating bonus; is it worth a level because it's a +2 without a corresponding -2, or because you can apply it anywhere? Is it too good as a floating +2 with the re-roll of natural 1s on saves? If it is, what if it's a bonus to Charisma with the save reroll? I treat it very much like force of personality, and the spirits, gods, and Powers take note of that kind of thing; it has more uses than the RAW.</p><p></p><p>comrade raoul- Well, there wouldn't ever be a class level instead; it just has to be as "worth" a level as any group of LA +1 racial abilities. I personally don't think I've ever seen one that was anywhere as good as a class level, but YMMV. I also prodded a friend with Midnight for their mightier humans; means doing several groups for my own world, but it's an option.</p><p></p><p>Nyaricus - You find dwarves that over-powered? I haven't seen any used in 3.5 yet, so I can't really say; what particular combination of abilities makes them so mighty?</p><p></p><p>Nifft - I can see where the appeal is, but I wanted it to be seamless with the other races; racial abilities rather than class levels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imret, post: 2761718, member: 991"] Thought I'd stick my head in and see what's come up so far: Caliban, the all skills are class skills is fairly substantial when using Unearthed Arcana's generic classes; it takes out a lot of the incentive to multi-class into expert, and since class abilities are now feats with mostly skill-based prerequisites, it's a fairly big boost to be that much closer to any abilities you'd like. I'm pretty sure the prestige class one isn't going to make it; I'm boiling the "general" ones (swashbucklers, dual-weapon specialists) into feat chains and the rest will be part of organizations you [b]commit[/b] to. Reputation bonuses, enemies, superiors, new goals...a prestige class should be [b]prestigious[/b]! The single reroll per game session is too much like another Destiny token, really. You seem to have generated a fairly popular idea with the +2 floating bonus; is it worth a level because it's a +2 without a corresponding -2, or because you can apply it anywhere? Is it too good as a floating +2 with the re-roll of natural 1s on saves? If it is, what if it's a bonus to Charisma with the save reroll? I treat it very much like force of personality, and the spirits, gods, and Powers take note of that kind of thing; it has more uses than the RAW. comrade raoul- Well, there wouldn't ever be a class level instead; it just has to be as "worth" a level as any group of LA +1 racial abilities. I personally don't think I've ever seen one that was anywhere as good as a class level, but YMMV. I also prodded a friend with Midnight for their mightier humans; means doing several groups for my own world, but it's an option. Nyaricus - You find dwarves that over-powered? I haven't seen any used in 3.5 yet, so I can't really say; what particular combination of abilities makes them so mighty? Nifft - I can see where the appeal is, but I wanted it to be seamless with the other races; racial abilities rather than class levels. [/QUOTE]
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