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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Breezly" data-source="post: 4675936" data-attributes="member: 12847">Ah, I see this group may include me.  What I should clarify is that I do make them roll the dice as part of the skill challenge, I just don't explicitly say, Make a nature check, make an endurance check.  I try to weave the dice rolling into a narrative of some sort, as Rel mentions above.  I suppose it is an attempt to keep the mood of the game going by incorporating dice/skill mechanics into a role-play situation.  I understand Rel's point above that you need to kick the players into gear a bit and get them off the over-planning loop.  I like the flexibility of Rel's skill challenges and I will utilize this in dealing with unexpected situations.  But, I also like a planned out skill challenge with a set goal to facilitate a structured goal.I hope that clarifies.  Though this reminds me why I don't participate in many threads...sometimes what I think I said is not what I actually said (typed).--Breezly</blockquote>