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How do you 'nudge' your players away from tank mentality? (and high magic games)
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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 3103237" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>Not really. Which is easier to hit: a dude in leather armor and a buckler or a dude in full plate and a tower shield? Any competent warrior should know that the latter will be harder to crack a solid blow to, so they should focus their efforts into hitting, while the latter is easy to slash apart, so go for more damaging blows</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I manage to harass and nearly kill a group of 10th level probaby better-than-they-should-be magically PCs with a handful of frost giants (and 1 frost giant cleric5). No Balors yet.</p><p></p><p>However, you're not looking for escalating challenge; a rabid wolf should be a challenge at 1st level and a challenge at 8th. If thats true, D&D is not your game...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or what your trying to say is "Since half my players suck it combat, its not fair for some of them to actually be GOOD at it, since it forces me to use monsters appropriate to thier CR and not have them spooked by goblins"?</p><p></p><p>And isn't fair play to say "the bbn smacked around those 5 thugs, now mister +20 intimidate/bluff, talk to them and ask them about their bosses plan?" Not everyone is going to be good at everything. You have 5 multi-classed rogues effectively and two heavy hitters, they come from different worlds in terms of build. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Um... Who is controling this PC? You or the player? Yeah, a barbarian is designed to deal out damage THAT IS THERE JOB!!!!!!!!! Its like complaining that sorcerers can't fight in melee or that fighters are poor healers! What your effectively doing is crippling his niche; not unlike removing the two-spells a level and then never giving a PC wizard a spellbook/scroll. Yeah, the PC wizard isn't nuking/teleporting around; all he can do is empower magic missile!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Honestly, if I was the bbn player, I'd have 'nudged' myself out the door and into another game. I might reccomend the generic PC construction from Unearthed Arcana, or Iron Heroes, C&C, or Trued20, but I'll make it even simpler; why don't you roll-up the PCs you want and let them attach names, personalities and genders to them? That way, you have the PERFECTLY balanced party.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 3103237, member: 7635"] Not really. Which is easier to hit: a dude in leather armor and a buckler or a dude in full plate and a tower shield? Any competent warrior should know that the latter will be harder to crack a solid blow to, so they should focus their efforts into hitting, while the latter is easy to slash apart, so go for more damaging blows I manage to harass and nearly kill a group of 10th level probaby better-than-they-should-be magically PCs with a handful of frost giants (and 1 frost giant cleric5). No Balors yet. However, you're not looking for escalating challenge; a rabid wolf should be a challenge at 1st level and a challenge at 8th. If thats true, D&D is not your game... Or what your trying to say is "Since half my players suck it combat, its not fair for some of them to actually be GOOD at it, since it forces me to use monsters appropriate to thier CR and not have them spooked by goblins"? And isn't fair play to say "the bbn smacked around those 5 thugs, now mister +20 intimidate/bluff, talk to them and ask them about their bosses plan?" Not everyone is going to be good at everything. You have 5 multi-classed rogues effectively and two heavy hitters, they come from different worlds in terms of build. Um... Who is controling this PC? You or the player? Yeah, a barbarian is designed to deal out damage THAT IS THERE JOB!!!!!!!!! Its like complaining that sorcerers can't fight in melee or that fighters are poor healers! What your effectively doing is crippling his niche; not unlike removing the two-spells a level and then never giving a PC wizard a spellbook/scroll. Yeah, the PC wizard isn't nuking/teleporting around; all he can do is empower magic missile! Honestly, if I was the bbn player, I'd have 'nudged' myself out the door and into another game. I might reccomend the generic PC construction from Unearthed Arcana, or Iron Heroes, C&C, or Trued20, but I'll make it even simpler; why don't you roll-up the PCs you want and let them attach names, personalities and genders to them? That way, you have the PERFECTLY balanced party. [/QUOTE]
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