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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus" data-source="post: 803251" data-attributes="member: 1077">Good questions, and these are my opinion...I think all items would turn to stone as well, because they are considered attended objects.&nbsp; And attended objects are considered part of the character.&nbsp; Although I would consider allowing a saving through for magic items, but that could be a lot of rolling there.&nbsp; I like to keep it short and simple myself.&nbsp; I definately think an Intelligent weapon/armor/item would get a save regardless.The &quot;look in my eyes&quot; part is kind of wonky.&nbsp; You just have to assume that, if the player's do not specify that they are averting their eyes from the beast, then they are subject to the gaze attack.&nbsp; They can't get a good enough swing in without look at the whole creature, and this includes it's face, to which it's eyes are a part of (I would hope).&nbsp; So if they avert their eyes, I beleive they get a miss chance because of concealment.&nbsp; If they don't, then they don't get a miss chance but will have to save vs. the gaze attack.I also think that creatures with gaze attack can force someone to look at them.&nbsp; I never DMed a gaze attacking creature, but I fought against one as a player, and this seemed to be what the DM was doing.&nbsp; Even though I averted my eyes, the creature could still try and gaze at me.&nbsp; That is even wonkier to envision.&nbsp; Heh.&nbsp; &quot;Hey buddy.&nbsp; Yoo hoo.&nbsp; Over here.&nbsp; Hey, look at me!&quot;And if you do add DR to these creatures, it probably would affect their CR.&nbsp; Maybe by 1 or 2 points.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RigaMortus, post: 803251, member: 1077"] Good questions, and these are my opinion... I think all items would turn to stone as well, because they are considered attended objects. And attended objects are considered part of the character. Although I would consider allowing a saving through for magic items, but that could be a lot of rolling there. I like to keep it short and simple myself. I definately think an Intelligent weapon/armor/item would get a save regardless. The "look in my eyes" part is kind of wonky. You just have to assume that, if the player's do not specify that they are averting their eyes from the beast, then they are subject to the gaze attack. They can't get a good enough swing in without look at the whole creature, and this includes it's face, to which it's eyes are a part of (I would hope). So if they avert their eyes, I beleive they get a miss chance because of concealment. If they don't, then they don't get a miss chance but will have to save vs. the gaze attack. I also think that creatures with gaze attack can force someone to look at them. I never DMed a gaze attacking creature, but I fought against one as a player, and this seemed to be what the DM was doing. Even though I averted my eyes, the creature could still try and gaze at me. That is even wonkier to envision. Heh. "Hey buddy. Yoo hoo. Over here. Hey, look at me!" And if you do add DR to these creatures, it probably would affect their CR. Maybe by 1 or 2 points. [/QUOTE]

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