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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Woas" data-source="post: 1453670" data-attributes="member: 16317">Its funny how sometimes, I'll be in bed, trying to get to sleep, and I'll just think of random things... and the other night it was about the Bard class and what it really DOES. I promised myself that I would make a new thread about them and try to get a big think-tank about bards going on the boards... but lo-and-behold, what thread is on the top of the list? This one! I must have failed my Will save against your scrying or something <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I've always been a little upset at the "locked" abilities of the bard class. Its true that bards are very versitle. A little bit of sneaking, a little bit of fighting, a little bit of spell casting, a large chunk of diplomacy-ing (if thats even a word <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />) But the notion that bards HAVE to somehow, in some way make noise of some sort (either with whistling, playing an instrument or just talking/singing) to use their special abilities and what not keeps me from really getting into them and understanding them. In D&D, Bards seem to be a strange mix between the traditional Medieval Jesters and the more modern "imbedded" journalist of our time. I feel that bards should be able to inspire the party through more than just noise. Take for example painting. Instead of writing a balad of the epic battle, what if the bard instead painted the grand masterpiece of it.Another example I was thinking about is to give bards a new spell or two. The caster would magically place everything s/he saw through their own eyes onto a magically prepped piece of paper... like a magical photograph. They say a picture is worth a thousand words... it seems to fit the bard quite well.The other big thing is the bard songs. Like the first poster mentioned, and the two cartoons rightly pointed out, bards singing and dancing and carrying on while everyone is in a blood frenzy and everyone has tunnel vision with "kill or be killed" mind set running through them does not seem right to me. Personally, I think bard songs should work for long periods of time... not just 5 rounds after they stop singing. I think it would be interesting if bardic music was 'prepared' almost like magic is. Instead of whip'n out the flute just as the elder red dragon is betching out fire and playing a little Foreigner to help out, the bard would play the flute at the end or begining of the day during times when a wizard/cleric picks spells. The bard would pick what bardic song they would like to play out of the ones they have to effect the party for say.. 8 hours. Maybe at higher levels the bard could choose more than one bardic song effect at once, etc. Stuff like that...Anyway.. bards just seem to me like they are To Much of everything and Not Enough of any one...</blockquote>

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