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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 7495128" data-attributes="member: 2629">Well I've only been playtesting the approach for 30 to 40 years, but I have to say the results look promising.If Gretta is playing Bob the 8 Intelligence Barbarian when the party encounters a logic puzzle, I expect her to offer some fun for the encounter, but not contribute to the solution because her CHARACTER is not smart enough to do so.  If she sees the solution herself, she is expected not to share it.  If she does, we reduce the encounter to a dice roll to see if the PCs (as opposed to the players) solve it.  On the flip side, if my friend's younger kid has joined us for a game and is playing an 18 Intelligence PC when the challenge is encountered, I will ask him to make a roll to see if he can figure out the puzzle.  With the right roll, I explain it to him quietly and let him share the solution with the group.  This works when people remember they're playing characters in a game rather than themselves.  In the few instances - and I mean very few over 40 years of gaming - where it didn't, it was taken as a good hint that the player in question wasn't a good fit for the group.</blockquote>