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Message: <blockquote data-quote="herald" data-source="post: 447152" data-attributes="member: 1112">Yup, Chaotics can take pledges and oaths and whatever you want to call them. But when it comes down to it, they will only follow it if it suits the situation. They will not stick by the oath regardless of the circumstances. And you wrong. Sorry but strong individualism mixed with ethical and moral behavior is not someone who only "follows the rules" when it suits them.Why can't you codify Lawful and Chaotic. Because situational ethics apply to both sides. American Abolishonists would be a good example of Lawful Good individuals protesting before the civil war that slavery should be abolished. But slavery was the law. Many helped slaves excape into Nothern states and even into Canada. These individuals understood that a greater good needed to be done. They worked for the greater good of man, but they broke the laws of thier country to do so.In D&D terms, I would say that they were Lawful Good, not Chaotic Good. Situational ethics and morals placed them against the government and they did the right thing.So you can define Good, but not Lawful or Chaotic? Define "Good" for me, I'd like to hear it. Simple, moral and ethical behavior. The world have been defining it for years. There are variations that span the globe. But most phylosophers have agreed for years that "Good" is the natural state of being in which a person acts in a moral and ethical way. The only reason I bring this up is simple. There are some true rugged individuals out there that subscribe to a moral code stricter that you and I can ever imagine. There are some socially adept individuals who understand that events can move very quickly and need to alter thier actions and understandings in order to do the most good, for the most amount of people. Situational ethics shows that there is no black and white.Ever!</blockquote>

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