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<blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 9352158" data-attributes="member: 205">I've seen two core problems with illusionists, which is why I never play them anymore even though I like the concept.1)&nbsp; They require the DM to focus.&nbsp; Adjudicating an illusion requires a conversation with the player to make sure they understand the scope of the environment and challenge, and to make sure the DM understands the scope and intent of the illusion.&nbsp; This takes time, and it's time where the other players can't really contribute.2)&nbsp; Assuming the illusion is effective and does what the illusionist wants, the general impact is to negate encounters.&nbsp; You fool the enemy into not seeing you, or being distracted, and otherwise avoid a confrontation.&nbsp; Depending on the game, negating encounters might not be a desired approach (especially for the DM who planned it).DMs who let illusionary combat magic do actual effective damage (like the fireball example above) as super rare, in my experience.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwoSix, post: 9352158, member: 205"] I've seen two core problems with illusionists, which is why I never play them anymore even though I like the concept. 1) They require the DM to [i]focus[/i]. Adjudicating an illusion requires a conversation with the player to make sure they understand the scope of the environment and challenge, and to make sure the DM understands the scope and intent of the illusion. This takes time, and it's time where the other players can't really contribute. 2) Assuming the illusion is effective and does what the illusionist wants, the general impact is to negate encounters. You fool the enemy into not seeing you, or being distracted, and otherwise avoid a confrontation. Depending on the game, negating encounters might not be a desired approach (especially for the DM who planned it). DMs who let illusionary combat magic do actual effective damage (like the fireball example above) as super rare, in my experience. [/QUOTE]

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