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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nevin" data-source="post: 8096767" data-attributes="member: 7024481"><p>because there are situations where I give them a chance to notice something.  A bard with a high perception might notice something in court that he hasn't said he's watching for.  A high level rogue not looking for a trap might roll a nat 20 and just catch it.  though honestly these days i'm likely to just roll for them behind the screen.    building suspense is great but  I've had a group that checked every 5 square foot  and every door for every thing they could think of whether or not there was any foreshadowing.  I don't know what their previous DMs had done to them but it was the most boring game I've ever run for about an hour.  I finally managed to get them out of that but I almost packed up and went home.</p></blockquote><p></p>