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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 7287856" data-attributes="member: 58197">Trolls don't have fire vulnerability. They care about fire damage because it shuts down their regeneration. You did this same thing with the OP's question, assuming it was talking about resistance when it wasn't.Of course you apply all modifiers. Nobody is suggesting that Spirit Shield should not be applied.The question is what it applies to. If a fighter hit you with a sword for 5 slashing, and then a wizard fire bolted you for 4 fire, you certainly could not apply Spirit Shield to both. You'd have to pick one. The OP's DM argues that a flame tongue sword is the same thing: Two separate instances of damage dealing and you have to pick one to shield against. Based on how such hits are typically described in the rules, I'm inclined to disagree; I think a flame tongue hit is a single event and you can apply Spirit Shield to both the slashing and the fire damage. But the RAW is not 100% clear and the passage you quoted does nothing to clarify it. You've found a very nice hammer; but this question ain't a nail.And there remains the secondary question: Say your troll buddy is hit for 5 slashing and 4 fire (total 9), and you reduce the total by 7. We agree that you can apply the reduction to the entire hit. So the troll will take 2 damage. That's all well and good, but the question is: Of the 2 points of damage that get through, is any of it fire damage? If yes, the troll can't regenerate. If no, it can regenerate as normal. So far as I can tell, RAW doesn't even hint at an answer to this one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 7287856, member: 58197"] Trolls don't have fire vulnerability. They care about fire damage because it shuts down their regeneration. You did this same thing with the OP's question, assuming it was talking about resistance when it wasn't. Of course you apply all modifiers. Nobody is suggesting that Spirit Shield should not be applied. The question is what it applies [I]to[/I]. If a fighter hit you with a sword for 5 slashing, and then a wizard [I]fire bolted[/I] you for 4 fire, you certainly could not apply Spirit Shield to both. You'd have to pick one. The OP's DM argues that a [I]flame tongue[/I] sword is the same thing: Two separate instances of damage dealing and you have to pick one to shield against. Based on how such hits are typically described in the rules, I'm inclined to disagree; I think a [I]flame tongue[/I] hit is a single event and you can apply Spirit Shield to both the slashing and the fire damage. But the RAW is not 100% clear and the passage you quoted does nothing to clarify it. You've found a very nice hammer; but this question ain't a nail. And there remains the secondary question: Say your troll buddy is hit for 5 slashing and 4 fire (total 9), and you reduce the total by 7. We agree that you can apply the reduction to the entire hit. So the troll will take 2 damage. That's all well and good, but the question is: [I]Of the 2 points of damage that get through, is any of it fire damage?[/I] If yes, the troll can't regenerate. If no, it can regenerate as normal. So far as I can tell, RAW doesn't even hint at an answer to this one. [/QUOTE]

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