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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Haltherrion" data-source="post: 5107780" data-attributes="member: 18253">There seem to be two basic paths you can take here. One is to stick with the orcs as the foe and figure our ways to make them the power at all levels of engagement but possibly supplmented with other creatures to provide some variety. That is, there is a hierarchy of orc leaders that the party has to battle, they draw on orcs as well as non-orcs (wargs as someone suggested, maybe spiders, evil dragons or some other creature found in this once fey area that might align with darker forces; or simply just neutral fey who have some grudge against the elves). You could can certainly work up orc NPCs with standard classes for key roles, level up standard orcs or define your own higher level orcs. This has the virtue of keeping the foes the orcs and not replacing the orcs with some other bad guy who was merely using the orcs. The other path is to put some other power behind the foes as you mentioned. I think that is pretty wide open but it might be a nice twist to make sure that power is someone who is also tied in directly with elves/eladrin the party is helping. Maybe its an elf gone bad- just a bad person or maybe a vampire or undead of some sort. I've found the more "closed" you keep the relationships the more they support and build on each other. Or maybe the elves wronged some fey power that is now using the orcs for revenge.</blockquote>