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How Do you stop players from making suicidal decsions?
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<blockquote data-quote="Epametheus" data-source="post: 314622" data-attributes="member: 719"><p>Here's a question for ya: what happens if the party wins?</p><p></p><p>The only people that they're facing that are genuine threats are the L15 Cleric and the L19 Bladesinger (I'm not familier with Bladesinger, but I remember the official 3e version was errata'd for being too weak, or something like that). The fact that one of those people is 19th level is pretty serious in of itself, but if she doesn't get Time Stop & Horrid Wilting (I'm guessing that's what happened to the 17th level party that was instantly killed by the 22nd level lich), then she'll probably just be the last enemy standing, and nothing more.</p><p></p><p>While the fact that the player's aren't even prepping appropriately for the battle is not a good sign, there isn't much prepping that the drow can do that isn't either a) very short term, or b) fairly obvious.</p><p></p><p>Mind control magic isn't all it's cracked up to be. Magic Circles and Protection from (insert alignment here) practically negate it. Unless no one in your group has realized that that's all it takes to counter a Charm or Dominate spell, the frontliners ripping their comrades to shreds isn't going to happen.</p><p></p><p>If these people have been playing their characters for two years, I would hope that they fully understand what their characters are capable of. Don't assume that they're already dead quite yet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Epametheus, post: 314622, member: 719"] Here's a question for ya: what happens if the party wins? The only people that they're facing that are genuine threats are the L15 Cleric and the L19 Bladesinger (I'm not familier with Bladesinger, but I remember the official 3e version was errata'd for being too weak, or something like that). The fact that one of those people is 19th level is pretty serious in of itself, but if she doesn't get Time Stop & Horrid Wilting (I'm guessing that's what happened to the 17th level party that was instantly killed by the 22nd level lich), then she'll probably just be the last enemy standing, and nothing more. While the fact that the player's aren't even prepping appropriately for the battle is not a good sign, there isn't much prepping that the drow can do that isn't either a) very short term, or b) fairly obvious. Mind control magic isn't all it's cracked up to be. Magic Circles and Protection from (insert alignment here) practically negate it. Unless no one in your group has realized that that's all it takes to counter a Charm or Dominate spell, the frontliners ripping their comrades to shreds isn't going to happen. If these people have been playing their characters for two years, I would hope that they fully understand what their characters are capable of. Don't assume that they're already dead quite yet. [/QUOTE]
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