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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sonofapreacherman" data-source="post: 1098563" data-attributes="member: 2315">I'll use the fingernail analogy again.You can batter my fingernail, puncture my fingernail, or scratch my fingernail, but the finger underneath can remain unscathed. The finger underneath can also take some of that damage, but that depends on how well my fingernail was battered, punctured, or scratched in the first place. That's why I now divide damage equally between the armor and the wearer (only dealing damage to the wearer if the sunder attack was high enough to hit their normal *armored* AC).Moreover, my fingernail would be considered "natural armor" by game definition. Worn armor is not even a part of our bodies, creating even more of a buffer zone (although slight) between character and armor.Sundering does not necessarily mean "creating a hole in something". In fact, "to sunder" means "to separate, divide, part, or sever". No hole punching involved.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Keep in mind as well, the sunder attack is an "abstraction" (like any special attack) that represents a myriad of possible attack results. Punching a hole in something is simply one possible interpretation.</blockquote>