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<blockquote data-quote="DMZ2112" data-source="post: 6420118" data-attributes="member: 78752"><p>I can't imagine it would take much, because it's a tack on. It has its own center of balance. It's relationship to what comes before is almost non-existent. Even more so than d20 Epic rules, it's in no way an organic continuation of the ruleset.</p><p></p><p>I'm actually a little disappointed; I would really like to engage you on this, Mercurius, but there is nothing I can say. Would you tweak the ability score increases? Why; what does it matter how /much/ faster they increase? The feat progression? Sure, you get more feats overall in Pathfinder but again, what does it matter how /much/ faster you get mythic feats than regular feats?</p><p></p><p>Even the individual feats -- is it really relevant how much better than basic feats they are? Or is it only relevant that they are better?</p><p></p><p>The purpose of Mythic or Epic rules is to break the "normal" progression of character capability. They should be internally consistent but there's just no relevance to them being balanced against the basic ruleset. By and large I see no reason why you couldn't just take the Pathfinder Mythic rules and play D&D5 with them.</p><p></p><p>Maybe you could change the "Display of X" ability effect to just a free success, but frankly that's a criticism of the Pathfinder rules, not a real conversion consideration. The fact that you can have a +20 to a d20 roll and still possibly fail is pretty much the soul of everything that is badwrong about D20.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair point. I don't think Paizo's abandonment of the concept does it any favors, however.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DMZ2112, post: 6420118, member: 78752"] I can't imagine it would take much, because it's a tack on. It has its own center of balance. It's relationship to what comes before is almost non-existent. Even more so than d20 Epic rules, it's in no way an organic continuation of the ruleset. I'm actually a little disappointed; I would really like to engage you on this, Mercurius, but there is nothing I can say. Would you tweak the ability score increases? Why; what does it matter how /much/ faster they increase? The feat progression? Sure, you get more feats overall in Pathfinder but again, what does it matter how /much/ faster you get mythic feats than regular feats? Even the individual feats -- is it really relevant how much better than basic feats they are? Or is it only relevant that they are better? The purpose of Mythic or Epic rules is to break the "normal" progression of character capability. They should be internally consistent but there's just no relevance to them being balanced against the basic ruleset. By and large I see no reason why you couldn't just take the Pathfinder Mythic rules and play D&D5 with them. Maybe you could change the "Display of X" ability effect to just a free success, but frankly that's a criticism of the Pathfinder rules, not a real conversion consideration. The fact that you can have a +20 to a d20 roll and still possibly fail is pretty much the soul of everything that is badwrong about D20. Fair point. I don't think Paizo's abandonment of the concept does it any favors, however. [/QUOTE]
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