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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5739279" data-attributes="member: 35909">Try to win initiative and end the fight on round 1 before the enemy can go so you "always sneak attack."Flank in melee and probably die.Beg the arcanist for Greater Invisibility and hope the enemy doesn't have true seeingBeg the arcanist to use grease and ready a shot against the foe each round on its turn, since PF made it so creatures are only "balancing" on their turn and thus screwing ranged rogues out of a formerly reliably source of full attack SA.Spend a crapton of feats on the Shatter Defenses line and wait till level 9 for it to all actually come on line (level 7 if you're willing to dip [insert full BAB class 3] instead of single classed rogue), and even then only on things both vulnerable to SA and fear.Dip Water Mystery Oracle for Water Sight and shoot a bow from the center of Obscuring Mists so you can see just fine but the enemy can't see you at all.No need for a rant, those are literally like the only ways at all to get sneak attack every round in PF.  If the small size of that list and cheese required for some of them doesn't make the point that SA sucks in PF, I don't know what will. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>