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<blockquote data-quote="Friend of the Dork" data-source="post: 5739891" data-attributes="member: 91954">Maybe you require too much of the Rogue? If you need the Rogue to be expert on traps, a good scout, a social chameleon AND a light-fighter, then yes he obviously fails at being good at all that. But nothing says he has to, in fact I have seen plenty of Rogues dumping charisma and wisdom in favor of Con and Dex, and even getting some Str. Such a character is obviously better at melee, and will have only marginally fewer hit points than a fighter. His AC will not be as good, but with the high dex and best light armors he will be comparable to any other class than the fighter. He will still be dependent on getting flanking buddies of course, but then again most groups have at least one melee fighter that loves to have a flanking buddy. Monsters tend to go for those enemies that they think is the most dangerous, and that may wel be the big fighter with the greatsword and power attack, rather than the rogue with shortswords and feeble sneak attack. And smart NPCs might attack the further back wizard instead, realizing that he is the more dangerous of the 3 and much squishier.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Friend of the Dork, post: 5739891, member: 91954"] Maybe you require too much of the Rogue? If you need the Rogue to be expert on traps, a good scout, a social chameleon AND a light-fighter, then yes he obviously fails at being good at all that. But nothing says he has to, in fact I have seen plenty of Rogues dumping charisma and wisdom in favor of Con and Dex, and even getting some Str. Such a character is obviously better at melee, and will have only marginally fewer hit points than a fighter. His AC will not be as good, but with the high dex and best light armors he will be comparable to any other class than the fighter. He will still be dependent on getting flanking buddies of course, but then again most groups have at least one melee fighter that loves to have a flanking buddy. Monsters tend to go for those enemies that they think is the most dangerous, and that may wel be the big fighter with the greatsword and power attack, rather than the rogue with shortswords and feeble sneak attack. And smart NPCs might attack the further back wizard instead, realizing that he is the more dangerous of the 3 and much squishier. [/QUOTE]

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