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<blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 4292160" data-attributes="member: 17077">4e has completely tossed verisimilitude to the wind. Whether thats a good or bad thing is a matter of personal taste. Here's a few examples:1 Every character cna heal themselves, multiple times per day, without magic. Hit points in 4e are more of an &quot;abstraction&quot; than ever before.2 Warlords can heal characters by &quot;inspiring&quot; them or ordering them around. They are just as good at healing as clerics, but are a martial (mundane) class.3 Martial classes have spectacular, anime-like moves. High level Rangers can shoot everyone in range in one action, for example.4 Every class has daily limits on some of their powers, even Fighters5 The economy is very &quot;gamist&quot;, players can only sell items for 20% of their value and spend full market price to make their own items.The only ones on that list that really bothers me (and I mean absolutely loathe) is #5.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Falling Icicle, post: 4292160, member: 17077"] 4e has completely tossed verisimilitude to the wind. Whether thats a good or bad thing is a matter of personal taste. Here's a few examples: 1 Every character cna heal themselves, multiple times per day, without magic. Hit points in 4e are more of an "abstraction" than ever before. 2 Warlords can heal characters by "inspiring" them or ordering them around. They are just as good at healing as clerics, but are a martial (mundane) class. 3 Martial classes have spectacular, anime-like moves. High level Rangers can shoot everyone in range in one action, for example. 4 Every class has daily limits on some of their powers, even Fighters 5 The economy is very "gamist", players can only sell items for 20% of their value and spend full market price to make their own items. The only ones on that list that really bothers me (and I mean absolutely loathe) is #5. [/QUOTE]

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