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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 1992616" data-attributes="member: 6533"><p>Any number of traumatic events can leave a nasty centuries long memory.</p><p></p><p>Or even a lack of memory, recall Herodotus running into the gap in Egyptian history that accounts for the Hyksos invasion.</p><p></p><p>It seems a highly variable factor. I think a lot of it depends on what means the society uses to memorialize it and what actually gets left behind either in the records of other cultures or in physical, linguistic, or biological remains.</p><p></p><p>For instance, the Arthurian legends are a better record than they are a record of the trauma. You could make the same argument of the Trojan war. On the other hand, I don't know that there was all that much native memory of the great North American plagues at all. At least by the time you get out to the central regions everyones lifestyle has changed so much that it's not even apparent why it would be relevant.</p><p></p><p>On a point of curiosity, it was my understanding that the major plagues hit meso-America well after the invasions. Where are the Nahuas?</p><p></p><p>And on a point of relevance, given the age spans in the PHB and assuming that those ages mean the same thing for fertility that they do for us, then I would put the dwarves as the most demographically robust race. They get the most generations per single lifestyle, far more than humans, and age the most gracefully given the bonus to constitution so you're looking at a species that has a far more effective older population than any other which tends to be the most succesful model.</p><p></p><p>Loads of kids and few adults is a real strain. Loads of adults and few kids has different pressures and is a real burden. By the Dwarven model you have plenty of adult children having their own children even as you are still having children. Lots of adults and lots of kids spread nicely apart. Even if you take in the common assumption that demi-humans don't have lots of children at once where people and other things do, I think that this model has greater strengths. </p><p></p><p>Particularly for a militaristic culture, if they have any sense of extended family at all, and all the emphasis on clans seems to support that, then you've really reduced your chances of poorly cared for orphans with such a model.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Strangemonkey, post: 1992616, member: 6533"] Any number of traumatic events can leave a nasty centuries long memory. Or even a lack of memory, recall Herodotus running into the gap in Egyptian history that accounts for the Hyksos invasion. It seems a highly variable factor. I think a lot of it depends on what means the society uses to memorialize it and what actually gets left behind either in the records of other cultures or in physical, linguistic, or biological remains. For instance, the Arthurian legends are a better record than they are a record of the trauma. You could make the same argument of the Trojan war. On the other hand, I don't know that there was all that much native memory of the great North American plagues at all. At least by the time you get out to the central regions everyones lifestyle has changed so much that it's not even apparent why it would be relevant. On a point of curiosity, it was my understanding that the major plagues hit meso-America well after the invasions. Where are the Nahuas? And on a point of relevance, given the age spans in the PHB and assuming that those ages mean the same thing for fertility that they do for us, then I would put the dwarves as the most demographically robust race. They get the most generations per single lifestyle, far more than humans, and age the most gracefully given the bonus to constitution so you're looking at a species that has a far more effective older population than any other which tends to be the most succesful model. Loads of kids and few adults is a real strain. Loads of adults and few kids has different pressures and is a real burden. By the Dwarven model you have plenty of adult children having their own children even as you are still having children. Lots of adults and lots of kids spread nicely apart. Even if you take in the common assumption that demi-humans don't have lots of children at once where people and other things do, I think that this model has greater strengths. Particularly for a militaristic culture, if they have any sense of extended family at all, and all the emphasis on clans seems to support that, then you've really reduced your chances of poorly cared for orphans with such a model. [/QUOTE]
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