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<blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 1994967" data-attributes="member: 7240"><p>No they don't. They have no burrow movement rate. </p><p></p><p>First of all, I can't make sense of your math. What assumptions does it make about infant mortality, parent mortality, gestation period, life span, fertility span, etc.? </p><p></p><p>Secondly, as I keep asking you: why doesn't this happen even without a demographic collapse? If the relative populations are the same before and after the demographic collapse, why doesn't this swamping happen irrespective of the collapse? What special conditions are created by the cataclysm that enable this that did not exist before?</p><p></p><p>Thirdly, there is obviously something wrong with the dragon magazine article that you are citing. The Monster Manual clearly states that only 17% of a kobold population is composed of non-combatant young whereas they comprise 20% of an elf population.</p><p></p><p>Just for the heck of it, here are a bunch of things you are not considering:</p><p>- in response to demographic collapse, there tends to be a significant increase in the ratio of domestic animals to people in a society; perhaps this might play a role in the elves being non-marginal</p><p>- elves and kobolds are not competing against eachother in the absence of exogenous factors; it's like you've designed one of those microeconomics exercises where there are only two products in the world: guns and butter</p><p>- if kobolds reproduce at such a phenomenal rate and yet have only a 17% non-adult population, it is likely that they experience very high infant mortality rates</p><p>- the most direct competitors of the kobolds are likely the entities with which they compete for resources; their primary competiotn would not be with elves but, more likely, with other creatures suffering from light blindness</p><p>- is everyone else in the world completely dense? Who on earth would sit around watching half a million kobolds hatch while twiddling their thumbs?</p><p>- why not apply your model to winter wolves, worgs, troglodytes, lizardfolk, sahuagin or formians -- all intelligent species with equally or more efficient reproductive cycles. (According to the monster manual, the non-adult lizardfolk population is 37.5%)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fusangite, post: 1994967, member: 7240"] No they don't. They have no burrow movement rate. First of all, I can't make sense of your math. What assumptions does it make about infant mortality, parent mortality, gestation period, life span, fertility span, etc.? Secondly, as I keep asking you: why doesn't this happen even without a demographic collapse? If the relative populations are the same before and after the demographic collapse, why doesn't this swamping happen irrespective of the collapse? What special conditions are created by the cataclysm that enable this that did not exist before? Thirdly, there is obviously something wrong with the dragon magazine article that you are citing. The Monster Manual clearly states that only 17% of a kobold population is composed of non-combatant young whereas they comprise 20% of an elf population. Just for the heck of it, here are a bunch of things you are not considering: - in response to demographic collapse, there tends to be a significant increase in the ratio of domestic animals to people in a society; perhaps this might play a role in the elves being non-marginal - elves and kobolds are not competing against eachother in the absence of exogenous factors; it's like you've designed one of those microeconomics exercises where there are only two products in the world: guns and butter - if kobolds reproduce at such a phenomenal rate and yet have only a 17% non-adult population, it is likely that they experience very high infant mortality rates - the most direct competitors of the kobolds are likely the entities with which they compete for resources; their primary competiotn would not be with elves but, more likely, with other creatures suffering from light blindness - is everyone else in the world completely dense? Who on earth would sit around watching half a million kobolds hatch while twiddling their thumbs? - why not apply your model to winter wolves, worgs, troglodytes, lizardfolk, sahuagin or formians -- all intelligent species with equally or more efficient reproductive cycles. (According to the monster manual, the non-adult lizardfolk population is 37.5%) [/QUOTE]
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