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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 1261853" data-attributes="member: 892">Look at it differently:How can I help other members of the party hit the undead?Thus trip, aid another, etc. can be used to help the paladin tank get a better chance at that mighty power attack with holy smite.With tumbling and total defense, you could at least act as a distraction.&nbsp; Usually, you have speed on your side, so you can lead undead away from others.If you have potions of healing (or a wand) you can heal other party members, leaving your cleric free to do some serious turning.And holy water is your best and cheapest friend ever.&nbsp; You can throw it into meelee, and if you miss, so what?&nbsp; It still does splash damage, and your friends get a&nbsp; bath.&nbsp; It will do the barbarian good anyhow.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Don't try to be the direct guy.&nbsp; Look at teamwork-enhancing options.&nbsp; Big picture stuff.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 1261853, member: 892"] Look at it differently: How can I help other members of the party hit the undead? Thus trip, aid another, etc. can be used to help the paladin tank get a better chance at that mighty power attack with holy smite. With tumbling and total defense, you could at least act as a distraction. Usually, you have speed on your side, so you can lead undead away from others. If you have potions of healing (or a wand) you can heal other party members, leaving your cleric free to do some serious turning. And holy water is your best and cheapest friend ever. You can throw it into meelee, and if you miss, so what? It still does splash damage, and your friends get a bath. It will do the barbarian good anyhow. :) Don't try to be the direct guy. Look at teamwork-enhancing options. Big picture stuff. [/QUOTE]

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