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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8329727" data-attributes="member: 93670">Just moving them to a higher slot because a large percentage of those spells don't carry enough for a higher level slot even before 5e nerfed the old versions &amp; certainly do not&nbsp; after being tuned down&nbsp; while saddled with concentration. Moving them to a higher slot would involve first&nbsp; tuning those spells back &amp; adjusting them&nbsp; to be still remain useful then second fixing all of the unused by design spells left behind.&nbsp; The huge number of spells that are unused by design&nbsp; causes severe problems.Looking at [USER=71699]@clearstream[/USER] 's <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/how-does-concentration-work-in-d-d-5e.680932/post-8329092" target="_blank">commen</a>t &amp; jumping to the conclusion that those spells should be slotted to a higher slot is pants on head backwards.&nbsp; As an alternate way of looking at it, look at phb149 there are about 4ish items on that list that get used nearly all of the time with the rest being ignored as long as long as the player has a choice of weapon; that doesn't mean that those weapons should be limited to higher level characters or something, it means that the structure that the others are forced to fit within is fundamentally flawed</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8329727, member: 93670"] Just moving them to a higher slot because a large percentage of those spells don't carry enough for a higher level slot even before 5e nerfed the old versions & certainly do not after being tuned down while saddled with concentration. Moving them to a higher slot would involve first tuning those spells back & adjusting them to be still remain useful then second fixing all of the unused by design spells left behind. The huge number of spells that are unused by design causes severe problems. Looking at [USER=71699]@clearstream[/USER] 's [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/how-does-concentration-work-in-d-d-5e.680932/post-8329092']commen[/URL]t & jumping to the conclusion that those spells should be slotted to a higher slot is pants on head backwards. As an alternate way of looking at it, look at phb149 there are about 4ish items on that list that get used nearly all of the time with the rest being ignored as long as long as the player has a choice of weapon; that doesn't mean that those weapons should be limited to higher level characters or something, it means that the structure that the others are forced to fit within is fundamentally flawed [/QUOTE]

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