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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Hanged Man" data-source="post: 1377963" data-attributes="member: 15799">Coming in late to this debate - but isn't there a different between a natural weapon and a natural attack form?  Improved Natural Attack requires a "natural attack form."  IMO, this refers to the non-iterative natural weapon attacks that monsters w/o weapons can make, not to a "natural weapon."  If it was meant to refer simply to "natural weapons," that term would have been used. Instead, this different term - which refers to the "form" of the attack, not the weapon used.A monk's unarmed strike is treated as a "natural weapon" for certain purposes.  But everything has a natural weapon - every medium creature, for example, can make an unarmed strike for 1d3, IIRC.  This is different from teh non-iterative natural attack form that monsters use.  Monk's "natural weapon" attacks are iterative - and then some!</blockquote>