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How does spacing work for a splitting jelly?
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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 4724720" data-attributes="member: 1164"><p><em><strong>Further questions on split oozes.</strong></em></p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> When does the new ooze act?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Does it go on the original’s turn?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Or does it use the rules governing new combatants?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> If split on its turn, like from an AoO or a foe's ready, do the new bits have their own turns?</li> </ul><p><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /> just want to mention...</p><p></p><p><strong><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/ooze.htm#ochreJelly" target="_blank">Split (Ex)</a></strong></p><p><em>Slashing and piercing weapons and electricity attacks deal no damage to an ochre jelly. Instead the creature splits into two identical jellies, each with half of the original’s current hit points (round down). A jelly with <strong>10 hit points or less cannot be further split</strong> and dies if reduced to 0 it point</em></p><p></p><p>So at the worst, the typical ochre jelly could be chopped up into eight 8HP oozes. Less worthy of the above mocking, but it is still slightly unsatisfying that the things are not shrinking at all.</p><p>I'd argue that oozes were simpler and could swap sizes easily because the stats were less tied to other stats, like size. In 1E, only thing that size changed was most weapons did less damage to larger creatures. In 3E, if the ooze shrinks a size category, if the stats change, that will make the ooze less a threat and turn <strong>Split</strong> into more a Special [sup]<em>Dis</em>[/sup]Ability than it already is. <em>Split, Split-Split, Fireball.</em> If the stats don't change when the ooze shrinks, some folks will cry <em>"Foul!"</em></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">1E Oozes</span></p><p> </p><p><strong>Black Pudding</strong> 10 HD. Size S to L, Splits if Chopped, struck or electrocuted.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>"smallest" </strong>{i'd guess 1 HP] 1' in diameter. 3d8 damage.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>10 - 20 HP</strong> 5' in diameter. 3d8 damage.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>21 - 40 HP</strong> 6' in diameter. 3d8 damage.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>41 - 60 HP</strong> 7' in diameter. 3d8 damage.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>61 - 80 HP</strong> 8' in diameter. 3d8 damage.</li> </ul><p></p><p><strong>Grey Ooze</strong> 3+3 HD Size M to L (5' Dia. to 8' Dia.)</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>17 or less HP</strong> Medium. 2d8 Damage</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>18+ HP</strong> Large. 2d8 Damage</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>21+ HP</strong> 12' long, 3' wide. 2d8 Damage</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Exceptionally large individuals</strong> 2d8 Damage. Psionic Counter Attack</li> </ul><p></p><p><strong>Ochre Jelly</strong> 6 HD Size M Split by lightning</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Medium</strong> Medium, 3d4 Damage</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Split</strong> "Smaller", Half HP, Half damage</li> </ul><p>semi related...</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/art-gallery-cartography-miniatures-painting/227856-building-ochre-jelly.html" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/art-gallery-cartography-miniatures-painting/227856-building-ochre-jelly.html</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3589/jubboss.png" target="_blank">Juiblex with full</a><a href="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3589/jubboss.png" target="_blank"> 1E</a><a href="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3589/jubboss.png" target="_blank"> entourage</a> counter sheet</p><p><a href="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3589/jubboss.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3589/jubboss.th.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 4724720, member: 1164"] [I][B]Further questions on split oozes.[/B][/I] [LIST] [*] When does the new ooze act? [*] Does it go on the original’s turn? [*] Or does it use the rules governing new combatants? [*] If split on its turn, like from an AoO or a foe's ready, do the new bits have their own turns? [/LIST] :hmm: just want to mention... [B][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/ooze.htm#ochreJelly"]Split (Ex)[/URL][/B] [I]Slashing and piercing weapons and electricity attacks deal no damage to an ochre jelly. Instead the creature splits into two identical jellies, each with half of the original’s current hit points (round down). A jelly with [B]10 hit points or less cannot be further split[/B] and dies if reduced to 0 it point[/I] So at the worst, the typical ochre jelly could be chopped up into eight 8HP oozes. Less worthy of the above mocking, but it is still slightly unsatisfying that the things are not shrinking at all. I'd argue that oozes were simpler and could swap sizes easily because the stats were less tied to other stats, like size. In 1E, only thing that size changed was most weapons did less damage to larger creatures. In 3E, if the ooze shrinks a size category, if the stats change, that will make the ooze less a threat and turn [B]Split[/B] into more a Special [sup][I]Dis[/I][/sup]Ability than it already is. [I]Split, Split-Split, Fireball.[/I] If the stats don't change when the ooze shrinks, some folks will cry [I]"Foul!"[/I] [SIZE=4]1E Oozes[/SIZE] [B]Black Pudding[/B] 10 HD. Size S to L, Splits if Chopped, struck or electrocuted. [LIST] [*][B]"smallest" [/B]{i'd guess 1 HP] 1' in diameter. 3d8 damage. [*][B]10 - 20 HP[/B] 5' in diameter. 3d8 damage. [*][B]21 - 40 HP[/B] 6' in diameter. 3d8 damage. [*][B]41 - 60 HP[/B] 7' in diameter. 3d8 damage. [*][B]61 - 80 HP[/B] 8' in diameter. 3d8 damage. [/LIST] [B]Grey Ooze[/B] 3+3 HD Size M to L (5' Dia. to 8' Dia.) [LIST] [*][B]17 or less HP[/B] Medium. 2d8 Damage [*][B]18+ HP[/B] Large. 2d8 Damage [*][B]21+ HP[/B] 12' long, 3' wide. 2d8 Damage [*][B]Exceptionally large individuals[/B] 2d8 Damage. Psionic Counter Attack [/LIST] [B]Ochre Jelly[/B] 6 HD Size M Split by lightning [LIST] [*][B]Medium[/B] Medium, 3d4 Damage [*][B]Split[/B] "Smaller", Half HP, Half damage [/LIST] semi related... [url]http://www.enworld.org/forum/art-gallery-cartography-miniatures-painting/227856-building-ochre-jelly.html[/url] [URL="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3589/jubboss.png"]Juiblex with full[/URL][URL="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3589/jubboss.png"] 1E[/URL][URL="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3589/jubboss.png"] entourage[/URL] counter sheet [URL="http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3589/jubboss.png"][IMG]http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3589/jubboss.th.png[/IMG][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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