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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 6468947" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>I just watched this again on the wizards website. Its the PAX East 2014 game. The combat runs from around 1:15 to 1:30. I just wanted to clarify the above with what I just saw. First, a minor point, the perception check was called for before combat began. This very well could have been a passive check which is how I would have done it. Secondly, the PCs all had low initiative rolls, so the cultists got to go first. Once the cultists had made their attacks, the DM announced the presence of the wyverns and they attacked, surprising the PCs and turning this first round into a surprise round retroactively. This came as a surprise to the players when the next round began and they hadn't been given the opportunity to attack yet. It was the cultists' turn again. So it wasn't, as I mistakenly said above, that a "new encounter" had begun, but that the first round was ruled to be a surprise round because that was when the wyverns took action. I hope this helps by way of example.</p></blockquote><p></p>