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<blockquote data-quote="Essenti" data-source="post: 6478774" data-attributes="member: 100205"><p>The implementation of surprise as some sort of stunned condition at the start of combat is just plain silly... I have no plans to even use that implementation of surprise as a condition. I think that reactions and delay-action rules already allow for ambushes to occur naturally.</p><p></p><p>The reaction is a really powerful, interesting, and useful concept for 5e, especially with the delayed-action you can use with them. It allows ambushes to occur more naturally, since those hidden archers are taking a triggered reaction to attack the PCs at the very start of combat. But it also allows PCs to make tactical decisions that could afford them some form of action even during an ambush.</p><p></p><p>If a player had the foresight to state a condition to take a triggered reaction (if the bandit does *whatever*, I will loose an arrow at him) they are obviously prepared to deal with THAT situation. If the PCs are unaware of the hidden archers, then they have no opportunity to state a triggered reaction to them, but they could react to the bandits in front of them if the PC stated their intention to do so.</p><p></p><p>I see no need for the surprise rules at all, they just get in the way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Essenti, post: 6478774, member: 100205"] The implementation of surprise as some sort of stunned condition at the start of combat is just plain silly... I have no plans to even use that implementation of surprise as a condition. I think that reactions and delay-action rules already allow for ambushes to occur naturally. The reaction is a really powerful, interesting, and useful concept for 5e, especially with the delayed-action you can use with them. It allows ambushes to occur more naturally, since those hidden archers are taking a triggered reaction to attack the PCs at the very start of combat. But it also allows PCs to make tactical decisions that could afford them some form of action even during an ambush. If a player had the foresight to state a condition to take a triggered reaction (if the bandit does *whatever*, I will loose an arrow at him) they are obviously prepared to deal with THAT situation. If the PCs are unaware of the hidden archers, then they have no opportunity to state a triggered reaction to them, but they could react to the bandits in front of them if the PC stated their intention to do so. I see no need for the surprise rules at all, they just get in the way. [/QUOTE]
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