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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6609580" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>The shortest answer to this is Stealth Rules Are Incomprehensible. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> There's a lot of DM judgement calls that go into exactly when stealth breaks and what a character might be able to do while stealthed. I try to err in favor of it being at least somewhat useful most of the time, but ruling that any movement breaks stealth is also reasonable. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The most relevant bit is pg. 194-195 of the PHB, which I actually forgot to apply in my example above: when a creature can't see you (ie, when you have successfully Stealth'd it), you have advantage on attack rolls against it (which also means sneak attack for any rogues!)</p><p></p><p>So our ranger, if they don't come out of stealth before, gets advantage on their first attack roll against any of the water elementals. Sniping would be reasonable there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6609580, member: 2067"] The shortest answer to this is Stealth Rules Are Incomprehensible. ;) There's a lot of DM judgement calls that go into exactly when stealth breaks and what a character might be able to do while stealthed. I try to err in favor of it being at least somewhat useful most of the time, but ruling that any movement breaks stealth is also reasonable. The most relevant bit is pg. 194-195 of the PHB, which I actually forgot to apply in my example above: when a creature can't see you (ie, when you have successfully Stealth'd it), you have advantage on attack rolls against it (which also means sneak attack for any rogues!) So our ranger, if they don't come out of stealth before, gets advantage on their first attack roll against any of the water elementals. Sniping would be reasonable there. [/QUOTE]
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