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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6812816" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>I played an Open Hand Monk to 6th level. I found it a mixed experiences.</p><p></p><p>Pros</p><p>Stealthy. Not as Stealthy as a rogue, but you can still scout.</p><p></p><p>Damage not too bad. You get 3 attacks before anyone else. You don't have to use ki to get a 3rd attack very early on. Just your bonus action.</p><p></p><p>Some martial versatility. You get Stunning Strike and as an Open Hand monk you can knock things prone or take away their reactions which can be helpful.</p><p></p><p>Mobility is great. You definitely move faster than anyone else.</p><p></p><p>Disadvantages:</p><p>AC isn't great. Even with a 20 wisdom and dex, you'll only have a 20 AC. Most monks will start in the 16 range and go up to 18 by level 4. Even with an 18 AC, you get hit a ton.</p><p></p><p>Too bonus action intensive. Nearly everything you do require your bonus action. If you're using your bonus action for defense, you can't use it for offense. So just to become equally hard to hit as a fighter, you have to give up offense and vice versa. I found this really starts to show up at later levels as your damage drops off just to stay alive. You have to lower hit points, so you go down much easier.</p><p></p><p>Your damage output doesn't even match the rogue. The rogue is much better set up to keep safe from battle. His attack doesn't require the use of his bonus action. So he can use his Bonus Action with Cunning Action to maximize his defense without lowering his offense.</p><p></p><p>Ki runs out quickly at lower level. So you're very limited.</p><p></p><p>You don't stand out at anything except moving fast. You don't have offense or defense that makes you stand out from the rest of the party other than moving fast. If you pick up the Mobility feat, you can build a highly effective movement based monk. If your game doesn't allow feats, you're out of luck. To avoid AoOs you have to use your bonus action, which takes away from your offense and uses ki. </p><p></p><p>I found the monk very limiting and lacking compared to other classes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6812816, member: 5834"] I played an Open Hand Monk to 6th level. I found it a mixed experiences. Pros Stealthy. Not as Stealthy as a rogue, but you can still scout. Damage not too bad. You get 3 attacks before anyone else. You don't have to use ki to get a 3rd attack very early on. Just your bonus action. Some martial versatility. You get Stunning Strike and as an Open Hand monk you can knock things prone or take away their reactions which can be helpful. Mobility is great. You definitely move faster than anyone else. Disadvantages: AC isn't great. Even with a 20 wisdom and dex, you'll only have a 20 AC. Most monks will start in the 16 range and go up to 18 by level 4. Even with an 18 AC, you get hit a ton. Too bonus action intensive. Nearly everything you do require your bonus action. If you're using your bonus action for defense, you can't use it for offense. So just to become equally hard to hit as a fighter, you have to give up offense and vice versa. I found this really starts to show up at later levels as your damage drops off just to stay alive. You have to lower hit points, so you go down much easier. Your damage output doesn't even match the rogue. The rogue is much better set up to keep safe from battle. His attack doesn't require the use of his bonus action. So he can use his Bonus Action with Cunning Action to maximize his defense without lowering his offense. Ki runs out quickly at lower level. So you're very limited. You don't stand out at anything except moving fast. You don't have offense or defense that makes you stand out from the rest of the party other than moving fast. If you pick up the Mobility feat, you can build a highly effective movement based monk. If your game doesn't allow feats, you're out of luck. To avoid AoOs you have to use your bonus action, which takes away from your offense and uses ki. I found the monk very limiting and lacking compared to other classes. [/QUOTE]
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