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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7023977" data-attributes="member: 12731">All I am saying is: don't count on others to share your view of the spell. You're inventing ways to get rid of the spell that simply aren't there. Hope it works for your campaign.As for myself, I read &quot;The target rationalizes any illogical outcomes from interacting with the phantasm.&quot; and even if it tries to break away from its chains, it would still not get free unless it makes its Investigation check. No matter what the monster does or tries, in reality that would mean it spends its action to take the Investigation check.- &quot;I flex my muscles to break the chains!&quot;- Make an Investigation (Intelligence) check; succeed and you realize the chains weren't real, they were in your mind only. Fail &quot;sorry but you're not strong enough, the chains barely budge&quot;.You see? Even if you say you wave around your arms, perhaps the chains are made out of a strange rubber. &quot;The target rationalizes any illogical outcomes from interacting with the phantasm.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7023977, member: 12731"] All I am saying is: don't count on others to share your view of the spell. You're inventing ways to get rid of the spell that simply aren't there. Hope it works for your campaign. As for myself, I read "The target rationalizes any illogical outcomes from interacting with the phantasm." and even if it tries to break away from its chains, it would still not get free unless it makes its Investigation check. No matter what the monster does or tries, in reality that would mean it spends its action to take the Investigation check. - "I flex my muscles to break the chains!" - Make an Investigation (Intelligence) check; succeed and you realize the chains weren't real, they were in your mind only. Fail "sorry but you're not strong enough, the chains barely budge". You see? Even if you say you wave around your arms, perhaps the chains are made out of a strange rubber. "The target rationalizes any illogical outcomes from interacting with the phantasm." [/QUOTE]

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