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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 7026033" data-attributes="member: 5890">The spell says it creates an object, creature or other phenomenon. It doesn't say anything about inflicting conditions, choosing how the illusion reacts to the target, or restricting any actions at all. It never gives an automatic investigation check when an interaction is illogical.All of that is interpreting what's written. The only things we know for sure are:1. It's an illusion of an object, creature or anything else that is visible.2. It includes sound, temperature and other stimuli3. It can deal damage4. An illusion of a creature can attack5. The target rationalizes illogical interactions6. It cannot support the weight of a creatureEverything else is up for grabs.Followed by &quot;Oh, that succeeded, because my experience with physical objects are that they respond to me moving them about with my hands. I am no longer blind.&quot;, right? Why would I imagine a box on my head and then assume that it cannot be removed unless I have some sort of crippling phobia?I think when you say &quot;play by the book&quot;, you mean &quot;use the rules that Undrhil suggests are correct&quot;. Those aren't the rules in the book, as I discussed above.See, in my interpretation, I'm not going to ask for int(investigation) checks against it: The player has to do that.Of course usually when used against a PC, the first thing to happen will most likely be some pseudo-metagaming between the PC and his companions, rapidly working out that something funny is going on.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 7026033, member: 5890"] The spell says it creates an object, creature or other phenomenon. It doesn't say anything about inflicting conditions, choosing how the illusion reacts to the target, or restricting any actions at all. It never gives an automatic investigation check when an interaction is illogical. All of that is interpreting what's written. The only things we know for sure are: 1. It's an illusion of an object, creature or anything else that is visible. 2. It includes sound, temperature and other stimuli 3. It can deal damage 4. An illusion of a creature can attack 5. The target rationalizes illogical interactions 6. It cannot support the weight of a creature Everything else is up for grabs. Followed by "Oh, that succeeded, because my experience with physical objects are that they respond to me moving them about with my hands. I am no longer blind.", right? Why would I imagine a box on my head and then assume that it cannot be removed unless I have some sort of crippling phobia? I think when you say "play by the book", you mean "use the rules that Undrhil suggests are correct". Those aren't the rules in the book, as I discussed above. See, in my interpretation, I'm not going to ask for int(investigation) checks against it: The player has to do that. Of course usually when used against a PC, the first thing to happen will most likely be some pseudo-metagaming between the PC and his companions, rapidly working out that something funny is going on. [/QUOTE]

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