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<blockquote data-quote="lkwpeter" data-source="post: 7252954" data-attributes="member: 6804713">I totally agree.That's actually a nice way of handling it. I treat it the same way.Yes, it is an illusion (see school of magic). So, your effects are limited, even if this one is in the creatures mind. Just make sure not mix it up with enchantment spells like &quot;Hold Monster&quot; etc.Your idea is really creative, but lso a bit tricky. Eating is a very complex process. It's not just &quot;snap and done&quot;. It would have to swallow it, etc. The question is, if you can force the target to follow those complex processes. I don't think so. But that's up to you as a DM. Feel free to allow it - why not? The moment, the creature is within the frog's stomach, it would maybe huddle and wriggle in the acid. After some time if might try to break free. In this case, I would start allowing INT saves to see if it has success. But again, that's up to you and how far you want to reward your players for creative usages of PF.You could also just cast an achid cloud that blinds the target.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="lkwpeter, post: 7252954, member: 6804713"] I totally agree. That's actually a nice way of handling it. I treat it the same way. Yes, it [I]is [/I]an illusion (see school of magic). So, your effects are limited, even if this one is in the creatures mind. Just make sure not mix it up with enchantment spells like "Hold Monster" etc. Your idea is really creative, but lso a bit tricky. Eating is a very complex process. It's not just "snap and done". It would have to swallow it, etc. The question is, if you can force the target to follow those complex processes. I don't think so. But that's up to you as a DM. Feel free to allow it - why not? The moment, the creature is within the frog's stomach, it would maybe huddle and wriggle in the acid. After some time if might try to break free. In this case, I would start allowing INT saves to see if it has success. But again, that's up to you and how far you want to reward your players for creative usages of PF. You could also just cast an achid cloud that blinds the target. [/QUOTE]

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