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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 4155327" data-attributes="member: 1879">I played because playing a game with annoying bits is better than not playing at all. However playing a game without annoying bits is better yet.We're on fundamentally different pages here. What is an RPG? If it's an exercise in creative joint storytelling then I don't need rules at all. If it's a tactical game of combat then I don't need named characters and local towns and economies. I play an RPG to assume the identity of a character in a world, and both the character and the world have to feel real to me. That does not mean the world has to be like our world, but it does mean it has to be internally consistant enough that I can empathise with the viewpoint of a character within that world.Where did I say my PC should be able to do it automatically? I said "can also learn". If it took the NPC 10 years to learn, then having it take 10 years for my PC is perfectly fine. Saying, no that's NPCs only, is not.</blockquote>