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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RealAlHazred" data-source="post: 6748863" data-attributes="member: 25818">Originally posted by Hellcow:Correct. Over the course of acentury.And I agree - but what I said above plays in reverse here. There would be more Aundair-trained mages in Cyre at the start of the war. There'd be more Rekkenmark trained generals there, because it's the seat of power. And yet, how many of those wizards were Cyran patriots? How many of those generals were actually Karrns, who would return to Karrnath as soon as Kaius made his plans? The Citadel, Arcane Congress, and Rekkenmark were all national services. People from across Khorvaire would travel to study their arts. And yet, they are also the pride of their respective nations. Why travel to Aundair to study magic when I could learn the arts of war at Rekkenmark, as my father did before me? We don't need wizards; that's Aundairian work, and we've got an Aundairian wizard down the street doing the rituals that need to be done - at least, those that aren't already being done by Cannith, Kundarak, or the other commercial institutions. Meanwhile, Cyre itself had it's national service and point of pride: the crown itself. The archives. The mint. And beyond that, the culture. It's Cyre that celebrated the history of Galifar. They have the finest museums; the greatest bards and artists outside of House Phiarlan. Cyrans don't NEED to go to Rekkenmark to study war. That's what Karrns love, and there are Karrnathi soldiers wearing the uniform of Galifar guarding the gates of Metrol. There are Brelish spies reporting to the king. And there is an Aundairian minister of magic. All these people served Galifar, doing what their nation was best at. Some of the best of them served in Cyre, serving the needs of the government. But when their leaders rejected Mishann's claim, they went home. Again, overtimeCyre's wealth would allow it to overcome its handicaps. And in the immediate short term, it could field exceptional mercenary troops and more Cannith hardware than any other nation could afford. But it was a handicap it had to deal with. In my Eberron, of course. And what I'm saying is that's what Aundair had been DOING for centuries before the war even started. The Congress-trained wizards in Cyre when the war began were those trained to perform practical tasks, who had value away from the academic world... or administrators setting arcane policy. Whereas Aundair was the seat of research and experimentation - and they wouldn't suddenly stop that because of the war, even if they focused on the projects that were most promising. And where Cyre had more money at the time the war began, Aundair had centuries of Galifar's gold invested in its arcane infrastructure and resources. We're back to yellowcake uranium: You've got a crazy idea for a new project, and it's going to take a hundred pounds of ground Khyber dragonshards. In the middle of the war, it could take you years to acquire that, even with gold to spare; whereas Aundair had the dragonshard reserves of the kingdom, and it would simply be a question of whether they were willing to spend them on your project. Again, I see Cyre as second to Aundair when it comes to arcane. For me, Aundair is first in research as well as sheer number of practical casters. But there's nothing wrong with us agreeing to disagree.</blockquote>

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