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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3243233" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Well, there's one fairly simple reason why we see less encounters in 3e modules than in earlier editions - combat is considerably more lethal in 3e. I know that's going to raise hackles, and I honestly don't mean to. Someone above mentioned bumping a party of 8 PC's with 20 orcs. That would be a very, very deadly encounter for a party below about 4th level. In 1e, that was a fairly standard encounter for 1st level characters and they could be very reasonably expected to win. </p><p></p><p>At higher levels, the disparity becomes even greater. From a design viewpoint, you can bombard your players with many more encounters simply because the PC's are so much more powerful in relation to the creatures they face. If you start doing that in 3e, you are going to wipe out parties PDQ. The days when you could fill a dungeon with a small army and expect the PC's to wade their way through them are pretty much gone. Yes, there are exceptions, but, by and large, you couldn't recreate the throneroom scene from the Giants modules simply because giants are so much bigger than they used to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3243233, member: 22779"] Well, there's one fairly simple reason why we see less encounters in 3e modules than in earlier editions - combat is considerably more lethal in 3e. I know that's going to raise hackles, and I honestly don't mean to. Someone above mentioned bumping a party of 8 PC's with 20 orcs. That would be a very, very deadly encounter for a party below about 4th level. In 1e, that was a fairly standard encounter for 1st level characters and they could be very reasonably expected to win. At higher levels, the disparity becomes even greater. From a design viewpoint, you can bombard your players with many more encounters simply because the PC's are so much more powerful in relation to the creatures they face. If you start doing that in 3e, you are going to wipe out parties PDQ. The days when you could fill a dungeon with a small army and expect the PC's to wade their way through them are pretty much gone. Yes, there are exceptions, but, by and large, you couldn't recreate the throneroom scene from the Giants modules simply because giants are so much bigger than they used to be. [/QUOTE]
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