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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6584443" data-attributes="member: 42582"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?358025-Session-Report-Against-the-%28Frost%29-Giants" target="_blank">This post</a> gives a reasonable sense of the sort of "epic" I enjoy in my game, which is achievable using 4e D&D: both allies and enemies tumbling over ledges and continuing the fight when they land at the bottom; being swallowed by serpents and fighting one's way out; leaping onto the back of an attacking dragon and driving it to the ground; blasting enemies with lightning bolts fired from a magical Thundercloud Tower; etc.Of these things in the list, 1, 3 and 4 are eminently feasible in 4e (though 4 has never come up, as the last time the PCs had access to Telekinesis they weren't using it to break massive chains).I don't know about 5 - there is probably a lich epic destiny somewhere (maybe Book of Vile Darkness). But the structure of 4e certainly supports this sort of thing.On 2, 4e provides only limited support to disarm attempts, but it is possible to inflict debuffs on enemies which might include weaking their gauntlets. I should add, of the things on the list 2 and 3 strike me as the least epic.</blockquote>