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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 4893256" data-attributes="member: 54707">It depends upon the villain of course.Some villains are redeemable. For senate a former Paladin turned anti-Paladin (he was a former black Spanish slave who was freed by the wrong people for the wrong reasons and thereby mixed in with a bad crowd), who led several characters into ambush and killed one, later rented and was transformed. He was a former childhood friend of one of the player characters who later became his sworn, though secret enemy, who thereafter then repented.I've also of course had the PCs seem the villains in the eyes of several others. After all to an antipaladin sometimes the Paladin is the evil one, the corrupt one, or the misguided one.But between the Nemeses of the party, and other groups like the Bulgars, Vikings, Russians, Muslims, certain Christian sects at war with heretics or other sects, witches, demons, and so forth there have been some fairly evil acts.AssassinationMurder of innocents and friends and family of the PCs.Rape, kidnap and selling into slavery of the friends and family of the PCs.Kidnap of the child of one of the PCs who is now being raised by enemies to despise and hate his own parents who the kid thinks are actually enemies of his own. His kidnappers are falsely telling him that he is their child.A group of Viking raiders once butchered everyone in a PC's home village in revenge for being stopped at another invasion point. Then cut off all of the hands of their victims and nailed them to a giant totem they erected on the outskirts of the village after burning the village to the ground.Bulgars who engaged in group crucifixion and torture and made drinking cups of NPC skulls, and one PC skull.Burning alive of multiple helpless victims and children.Long term torture and imprisonment.Forced conversions which later led to torture and executions anyway.Cannibalism.Poisoning of wells and crops. Forcing people to eat diseased and rotted, putrefied animal remains.War Atrocities.A group of young girl children were all blinded and mutilated by some Goths infuriated at the fact that the Byzantines had never fed them or given them promised land for war services.Land seizure, property theft, exile. Framing the PCs for various crimes.People being drawn and quartered, and executed by other various torturous means.Stuff like that. The kind of thing that unfortunately is all too common throughout history and is still real common in certain parts of the world.</blockquote>

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