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<blockquote data-quote="DM_Matt" data-source="post: 1630398" data-attributes="member: 1213">Most of my evil is EEEVIL.&nbsp; In 2004:I often let the PCs meet the widows and orphans, to see the devastation.&nbsp; I've had a baddie direct the tarrasque towards the home island of one of the PCs.&nbsp; I've had my baddies massacre villages while disguised as the PCs.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Good NPCs they meet tend to die pretty terribly.&nbsp; Last session my baddies even used mind control to get children to gleefully murder their parents, and then slaughtered the kids in their jail cell to destroy evidence.Then again, as a Neocon DMing a bunch of Liberals, I always get made fun of for being very easy on Pallys and exalted characters, since my RL threashold for violence against evildoers is significantly lower than theirs (What, you SPARED the Orc babies?).In spite of the bad rap I get, though (I don't advocate killing Orc babies), their PCs still test my limits, which do in fact exist.&nbsp;&nbsp; I really frusterated my PCs recently when they found out that they couldnt use Sanctified only-hurts-evil area of effect spells in a bar because they would wind up killing meanies who havent done anytinhg that bad.&nbsp; For their biggest slip as a mostly exalted or pally party, they roughed up a prisoner a little bit. She blackmailed them with it when released, then not only did she turn out to be good (her origional actions against them were on behalf of her country, which happened to be a different one than the PCs are from), but the PCs failed to stop the murders of NPCs that turned out to be her mother and sister, and they watched her get seriously hurt by an attack that was immune to clerical healing and had to take care of her for weeks.&nbsp; Power loss is a good punishment, but karma and guilt work, too!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DM_Matt, post: 1630398, member: 1213"] Most of my evil is EEEVIL. In 2004: I often let the PCs meet the widows and orphans, to see the devastation. I've had a baddie direct the tarrasque towards the home island of one of the PCs. I've had my baddies massacre villages while disguised as the PCs. Good NPCs they meet tend to die pretty terribly. Last session my baddies even used mind control to get children to gleefully murder their parents, and then slaughtered the kids in their jail cell to destroy evidence. Then again, as a Neocon DMing a bunch of Liberals, I always get made fun of for being very easy on Pallys and exalted characters, since my RL threashold for violence against evildoers is significantly lower than theirs (What, you SPARED the Orc babies?). In spite of the bad rap I get, though (I don't advocate killing Orc babies), their PCs still test my limits, which do in fact exist. I really frusterated my PCs recently when they found out that they couldnt use Sanctified only-hurts-evil area of effect spells in a bar because they would wind up killing meanies who havent done anytinhg that bad. For their biggest slip as a mostly exalted or pally party, they roughed up a prisoner a little bit. She blackmailed them with it when released, then not only did she turn out to be good (her origional actions against them were on behalf of her country, which happened to be a different one than the PCs are from), but the PCs failed to stop the murders of NPCs that turned out to be her mother and sister, and they watched her get seriously hurt by an attack that was immune to clerical healing and had to take care of her for weeks. Power loss is a good punishment, but karma and guilt work, too! [/QUOTE]

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