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<blockquote data-quote="Laurefindel" data-source="post: 8124992" data-attributes="member: 67296"><p>True.</p><p></p><p>Fumbles <em>do </em>exist in 5e (and prior editions). If you roll a "1", you miss regardless of your to-hit total. You fumbled, and that caused you to miss an attack that may have been successful otherwise. The end.</p><p></p><p>... unless you're a halfling, in which case your fumble inadvertently puts you in an advantageous position, leaving your opponent open for another strike. Lucky you!</p><p></p><p>But I can understand that some people find unexpected (and unplanned) "naughty word happens" situations appealing. the attack roll is the most common denominator to all monsters and all PC classes in combat, so it seems natural to have those moments triggered by natural 1s. Except it isn't the best common denominator because 1) some attacks (i.e. fireball) don't use use attack rolls and 2) some classes (i.e. the fighter) are more susceptible to trigger "naughty word happens" moments. That has been discussed for what , 10 pages worth of posts now?</p><p></p><p>Which leaves me reflecting on two things, assuming one is willing to embrace fumbles in good faith; first, how/when to trigger fumbles and second, what do these "naughty word happens moments" mean, especially in a spirit that doesn't necessarily involve dubious slapstick humour.</p><p></p><p>[edit] Bonus question: Do "fumbles" necessarily <em>have </em>to affect the triggering character if fumbles are seen as "naughty word happens" moments?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Laurefindel, post: 8124992, member: 67296"] True. Fumbles [I]do [/I]exist in 5e (and prior editions). If you roll a "1", you miss regardless of your to-hit total. You fumbled, and that caused you to miss an attack that may have been successful otherwise. The end. ... unless you're a halfling, in which case your fumble inadvertently puts you in an advantageous position, leaving your opponent open for another strike. Lucky you! But I can understand that some people find unexpected (and unplanned) "naughty word happens" situations appealing. the attack roll is the most common denominator to all monsters and all PC classes in combat, so it seems natural to have those moments triggered by natural 1s. Except it isn't the best common denominator because 1) some attacks (i.e. fireball) don't use use attack rolls and 2) some classes (i.e. the fighter) are more susceptible to trigger "naughty word happens" moments. That has been discussed for what , 10 pages worth of posts now? Which leaves me reflecting on two things, assuming one is willing to embrace fumbles in good faith; first, how/when to trigger fumbles and second, what do these "naughty word happens moments" mean, especially in a spirit that doesn't necessarily involve dubious slapstick humour. [edit] Bonus question: Do "fumbles" necessarily [I]have [/I]to affect the triggering character if fumbles are seen as "naughty word happens" moments? [/QUOTE]
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