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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5280532" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Yes, but here is my point: <strong>those rocks did not come from outside our solar system</strong>. They came from <em>within</em> our solar system.</p><p></p><p>Our being hit by "debris" from outside our solar system isn't a realistic risk. The materials of interstellar space are so diffuse, and our planet is so small compared to the space involved, that the statistics show a collision, even on geologic timescales is just not going to happen. This is why I say you might not understand the scales involved. Space is so <em>incredibly huge</em>, and there's so little matter in it, that this just isn't a concern.</p><p></p><p>Now, if you want to say that our sun will be passing through a region in which there are more stars, and one of those passing nearby and might give a gravitational nudge to things in our own Oort cloud and that's a risk, you might have something.</p><p></p><p>Except that the nearby stars are well charted, and their velocities relative to us are known. None of them are on a path that's going to be an issue in the next few tens of thousands of years, as I understand it.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yes. And all those rocks are within our solar system. None are "extrasolar".</p><p></p><p>I will say once more, just to be 100% clear. Getting hit by something is a notable risk. Getting hit by an object from outside our solar system is not a notable risk. You've got the right general idea, but you're attributing a danger from the wrong place.</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry if I seem to be harping on this. I'm a physicist by training, and when I see policy-influencing misinformation, I feel a bit obliged to correct it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, but objects moving at relativistic speed are few and far between. More rare than even non-relativistic objects. While it makes good theater, it is not a realistic risk.</p><p></p><p>If you want death from outside our solar system, worry about gamma ray bursts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 5280532, member: 177"] Yes, but here is my point: [B]those rocks did not come from outside our solar system[/B]. They came from [i]within[/i] our solar system. Our being hit by "debris" from outside our solar system isn't a realistic risk. The materials of interstellar space are so diffuse, and our planet is so small compared to the space involved, that the statistics show a collision, even on geologic timescales is just not going to happen. This is why I say you might not understand the scales involved. Space is so [I]incredibly huge[/I], and there's so little matter in it, that this just isn't a concern. Now, if you want to say that our sun will be passing through a region in which there are more stars, and one of those passing nearby and might give a gravitational nudge to things in our own Oort cloud and that's a risk, you might have something. Except that the nearby stars are well charted, and their velocities relative to us are known. None of them are on a path that's going to be an issue in the next few tens of thousands of years, as I understand it. Yes. And all those rocks are within our solar system. None are "extrasolar". I will say once more, just to be 100% clear. Getting hit by something is a notable risk. Getting hit by an object from outside our solar system is not a notable risk. You've got the right general idea, but you're attributing a danger from the wrong place. I'm sorry if I seem to be harping on this. I'm a physicist by training, and when I see policy-influencing misinformation, I feel a bit obliged to correct it. Yes, but objects moving at relativistic speed are few and far between. More rare than even non-relativistic objects. While it makes good theater, it is not a realistic risk. If you want death from outside our solar system, worry about gamma ray bursts. [/QUOTE]
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