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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 2758372" data-attributes="member: 5889">Checked it out, and Hyp's right.So let's compare the 3.5 and 3.0 systems:1) Start with light forest, average encounter distance (from 3.0) is 105 feet. Assuming the basic DC to spot a medium humanoid is 0, then that's about a 10 spot check. So that seems reasonable. The question of course is if you fail, when you can make a new spot check as you get closer. I would go with whenever the distance equals your check. So if you got an 8, it would be at 80 feet.In 3.0 the DC was 20. However, if you failed, you automatically saw them at half the distance.2) Let's try open grassland. Encounter distance is 420 feet. In 3.5, that's a spot check DC 42. Assuming your basic spot of 10 again, that means you won't see someone in an open field until they are 100 feet away. In 3.0, its still a 20, again you encounter them at half the distance (210).Personally, I would recommend to most people to go with the 3.0 rules they're just plain easier and they make more sense.</blockquote>