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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blammoh" data-source="post: 6279232" data-attributes="member: 6705262">I had a conundrun the other day as I was DM-ing my fine group of powerhungry loot zealots, aka my player friends. After the party psion (not canon PF I know, but we'll let that slide for now) did a concussion blast on a poor enemy wizard. She did about 25 points of damage, and I described it as seeing blood come from his nose and his eyes bulging as his face was constricted with pain. I felt properly cinematic about that.However, the player next in initiative cast a [Major Illusio] and stated that he wanted to copy the effects of the psion power on that target, or at least all the effects he saw happen. He reasoned that he wouldn't actually copy the damage done to the target, but he could potentially make the target believe that he had had a second blast due to all the other things illusioned on him. For the sake of argument, we assume the target fails any will saves needed. I decreed this wouldn't have any effect even without a save, as the target wouldn;t get a headache from seeing even more blood come from his noes and he wouldn;t actually *see* his own eyes bulge more. Also, illusions coming into contact with a target being tend to not be there anymore. And this one would be on him at spell creation even. He argued I was wrong as illusions were made to make someone believe something based on what he thinks he sees, and it should at least have a will save and make him keel over if the target believes he is going below 0 HP. I am still fully unconvinced about illusions being able to do this in this particular case, and I am also afraid of starting up a precedent, as he will start copying fireballs and what not if this is ok. I did promise him I would ask you lovely people in the off chance I am seeing this wrong and Illusion can actually do this. So, what y'all think? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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