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<blockquote data-quote="Larrin" data-source="post: 6279329" data-attributes="member: 55816">What if instead of a spell, the illusionist had cause the foe to believe it had a gaping chest would from an axe.&nbsp; Would the foe's mind be able to cause that level of damage to himself just by believing it had happened?Answer: Only if the spell states it can cause damage.I would look at:1) check the spell description.&nbsp; If it can deal damage, it will quantify it.&nbsp; If it doesn't say it can deal damage, then it is unlikely to be able to.&nbsp; 2) Check the sub-school:<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Illusion" target="_blank">http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Illusion</a> also provides a quick list of types of Illusions: figments, glamors, patterns, phantasms, shadows.of these types figments (which major image is) and glamers specifically say they don't have real effectspatterns and phatasm don't directly state they can or can't, but some spells (<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/phantasmal-killer" target="_blank">http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/phantasmal-killer</a>) certainly do, so it is up to the spell description in these cases.shadows flat out say they can deal real damage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Larrin, post: 6279329, member: 55816"] What if instead of a spell, the illusionist had cause the foe to believe it had a gaping chest would from an axe. Would the foe's mind be able to cause that level of damage to himself just by believing it had happened? Answer: Only if the spell states it can cause damage. I would look at: 1) check the spell description. If it can deal damage, it will quantify it. If it doesn't say it can deal damage, then it is unlikely to be able to. 2) Check the sub-school: [url]http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Illusion[/url] also provides a quick list of types of Illusions: figments, glamors, patterns, phantasms, shadows. of these types figments (which major image is) and glamers specifically say they don't have real effects patterns and phatasm don't directly state they can or can't, but some spells ([url]http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/phantasmal-killer[/url]) certainly do, so it is up to the spell description in these cases. shadows flat out say they can deal real damage. [/QUOTE]

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