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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sabaron" data-source="post: 1362183" data-attributes="member: 285">After our party was ambushed by horse archers in the dark, a question arose.  How far exactly can you see in moonlight or starlight outside at night?  We didn't find anything in either the DMG or PHB (3.5 or 3.0), besides the ranges for torches and other light sources, and degrees of illumination (torchlight, shadowy light and no illumination).  Since the moon was waxing, I ruled that, for the time being, you could see like it was daytime (we were in hills, so line of sight was limited anyway), but the prevailing illumination was shadowy, giving a 20% miss chance.  Halved for low-light vision and eliminated for darkvision within 60'.  Is there an official rule for this?  If not, does anyone have better house rules than I do, or am I going to have to dig up my 1e Wilderness Survival Guide?</blockquote>