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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 5072921" data-attributes="member: 58197">Where by &quot;many&quot; you mean &quot;three.&quot; And frankly, the idea that you'd need a DC 30 Knowledge (History) check is preposterous. Knowledge (Religion), maybe - though DC 30 seems rather high - and Knowledge (Architecture and Engineering) certainly... so drop one rank in each of those two and let magic take care of the rest.(Also: Appraise? Why on God's green earth would you need Appraise? Even if you were building the cathedral the old-fashioned way, Appraise would have very little application, certainly not enough to require a DC 30 check.)So, every laborer who hauls stone to build a cathedral also has to have the skills of an architect, an engineer, a stonecutter, a miner, and a priest? How did cathedrals ever get built in the real world then?The guy casting all the wall of stone spells is the construction crew. The divine called creatures are the architects/engineers telling you what to put up where.(Or, of course, you could get some regular architects and engineers to direct you, which is slightly less instant-gratification and not nearly such extravagant overkill, but probably a good deal cheaper.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 5072921, member: 58197"] Where by "many" you mean "three." And frankly, the idea that you'd need a DC 30 Knowledge (History) check is preposterous. Knowledge (Religion), maybe - though DC 30 seems rather high - and Knowledge (Architecture and Engineering) certainly... so drop one rank in each of those two and let magic take care of the rest. (Also: Appraise? Why on God's green earth would you need Appraise? Even if you were building the cathedral the old-fashioned way, Appraise would have very little application, certainly not enough to require a DC 30 check.) So, every laborer who hauls stone to build a cathedral also has to have the skills of an architect, an engineer, a stonecutter, a miner, and a priest? How did cathedrals ever get built in the real world then? The guy casting all the [i]wall of stone[/i] spells is the construction crew. The divine called creatures are the architects/engineers telling you what to put up where. (Or, of course, you could get some regular architects and engineers to direct you, which is slightly less instant-gratification and not nearly such extravagant overkill, but probably a good deal cheaper.) [/QUOTE]

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