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<blockquote data-quote="Michaluk" data-source="post: 3657926" data-attributes="member: 45232">The wording on the spell is very confusing.&nbsp; &quot;Move and attack normally&quot; basically doesn't mean anything, since you're always moving and attacking normally given the specific situation you're in.&nbsp; A character in thick underbrush moves and attacks normally for a character in thick underbrush.&nbsp; What does &quot;normally&quot; mean?&nbsp; Does it mean &quot;as if the character was on flat ground&quot;?&nbsp; Does it mean &quot;As if the character was on flat ground and unencumbered&quot;? etc.Looking at the next part of the spell is more informative.&nbsp; &quot;even under the influence of magic ...&quot;.&nbsp; The &quot;even&quot; part implies that the spell also applies to similar, non-magical effects.&nbsp; So the spell allows the character to disregard the effects of magical and non-magical paralysis as well as effects similar to solid fog, slow and web.The next paragraph starts with &quot;The spell also enables&quot; and then goes on to talk about moving underwater.&nbsp; Notice that this is an additional effect (&quot;also&quot; is used), not a continuation of the above effect.&nbsp; In this section, moving and attacking normally is made more explicit by the example of someone swinging a club underwater implicitly as if they were on dry land.&nbsp; The implication then is that &quot;normally&quot; means on dry land.&nbsp; So one could, if he chose (they use the term &quot;enables&quot; rather than something like &quot;forces&quot;) walk unimpeded along the bottom of a lake, swinging away with his great sword.&nbsp; Note however that moving normally requires a hard surface, so the character could not move normally through water if he's not touching the bottom.&nbsp; Even though he could still swing his weapon mostly normally without a firm footing (maybe I'd give a -2 or -4 to attack), moving around without touching the ground still requires a swim check.This second paragraph applies only to water, not every medium your character may be traveling through.&nbsp; Therefore something like a strong wind, in my opinion, would not be covered by this and would continue to affect the character.For those who think the wind should not affect the character, here's my reductio ad absurdum.&nbsp; You are arguing either:1) The effect of the wind is covered by the first paragraph and you can &quot;move normally&quot; through it.or2) The wind is covered by a logical extension of the second paragraph about water, and therefore as long as you're on a hard surface (the bridge) you can &quot;move normally&quot; through it.If your argument is (1), then the character could also &quot;move normally&quot; through solid rock, since it is just another thing that stops normal movement and is therefore neutralized by the spell.&nbsp; I don't think anyone believes the spell allows a character to do this.If you argument is (2), then the character can &quot;move normally&quot; through any medium.&nbsp; Therefore they can, here it comes, move normally through solid rock.&nbsp; In fact, since they're always on a hard surface, they could &quot;float&quot; through however they pleased, effects of gravity not considered.&nbsp; Once again, I don't think anyone believes the spell allows a character to do this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Michaluk, post: 3657926, member: 45232"] The wording on the spell is very confusing. "Move and attack normally" basically doesn't mean anything, since you're always moving and attacking normally given the specific situation you're in. A character in thick underbrush moves and attacks normally for a character in thick underbrush. What does "normally" mean? Does it mean "as if the character was on flat ground"? Does it mean "As if the character was on flat ground and unencumbered"? etc. Looking at the next part of the spell is more informative. "even under the influence of magic ...". The "even" part implies that the spell also applies to similar, non-magical effects. So the spell allows the character to disregard the effects of magical and non-magical paralysis as well as effects similar to solid fog, slow and web. The next paragraph starts with "The spell also enables" and then goes on to talk about moving underwater. Notice that this is an additional effect ("also" is used), not a continuation of the above effect. In this section, moving and attacking normally is made more explicit by the example of someone swinging a club underwater implicitly as if they were on dry land. The implication then is that "normally" means on dry land. So one could, if he chose (they use the term "enables" rather than something like "forces") walk unimpeded along the bottom of a lake, swinging away with his great sword. Note however that moving normally requires a hard surface, so the character could not move normally through water if he's not touching the bottom. Even though he could still swing his weapon mostly normally without a firm footing (maybe I'd give a -2 or -4 to attack), moving around without touching the ground still requires a swim check. This second paragraph applies only to water, not every medium your character may be traveling through. Therefore something like a strong wind, in my opinion, would not be covered by this and would continue to affect the character. For those who think the wind should not affect the character, here's my reductio ad absurdum. You are arguing either: 1) The effect of the wind is covered by the first paragraph and you can "move normally" through it. or 2) The wind is covered by a logical extension of the second paragraph about water, and therefore as long as you're on a hard surface (the bridge) you can "move normally" through it. If your argument is (1), then the character could also "move normally" through solid rock, since it is just another thing that stops normal movement and is therefore neutralized by the spell. I don't think anyone believes the spell allows a character to do this. If you argument is (2), then the character can "move normally" through any medium. Therefore they can, here it comes, move normally through solid rock. In fact, since they're always on a hard surface, they could "float" through however they pleased, effects of gravity not considered. Once again, I don't think anyone believes the spell allows a character to do this. [/QUOTE]

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