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<blockquote data-quote="Anguirus" data-source="post: 4565536" data-attributes="member: 41413">I voted &quot;sometimes.&quot;&nbsp; I use them much more often than the other DMs I know seem to...I'm in a multi-year campaign arc in which we fought two.I, on the other hand, believe firmly that a proper D&amp;D group should get to add some dragon notches to their belt.&nbsp; In 3E I carefully picked draconic spells to make them suitable challenges.&nbsp; Now they are much more balanced and fun to use for all levels, without the conundrum of &quot;players below 9th level are fighting pissant wyrmlings.&quot;&nbsp; I tossed a 4th level black dragon with two blackscale bruisers at a fifth-level party...they just landed their ship at a nation run by metallic dragons and dragonborn, so this was the equivalent of a street thug who's going after them for money.&nbsp; He proved unable to regenerate his powers for round after round, so only the extra help saved him from a one-sided butchering.&nbsp; He didn't take anyone out, in the end, but bloodied a bunch of them and shook them up...which was pretty much my goal!As a player, I've only tangled with one dragon in 4E.&nbsp; It was four 12th level characters against an adult blue...we won with one of us conscious and at &lt;10 HP, and that only because our last survivor used a Bluff check to make the dragon think we'd surrendered for a round!&nbsp; Blue dragons are nasty in this edition because of the extreme rage of that at-will lightning blast.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Anguirus, post: 4565536, member: 41413"] I voted "sometimes." I use them much more often than the other DMs I know seem to...I'm in a multi-year campaign arc in which we fought two. I, on the other hand, believe firmly that a proper D&D group should get to add some dragon notches to their belt. In 3E I carefully picked draconic spells to make them suitable challenges. Now they are much more balanced and fun to use for all levels, without the conundrum of "players below 9th level are fighting pissant wyrmlings." I tossed a 4th level black dragon with two blackscale bruisers at a fifth-level party...they just landed their ship at a nation run by metallic dragons and dragonborn, so this was the equivalent of a street thug who's going after them for money. He proved unable to regenerate his powers for round after round, so only the extra help saved him from a one-sided butchering. He didn't take anyone out, in the end, but bloodied a bunch of them and shook them up...which was pretty much my goal! As a player, I've only tangled with one dragon in 4E. It was four 12th level characters against an adult blue...we won with one of us conscious and at <10 HP, and that only because our last survivor used a Bluff check to make the dragon think we'd surrendered for a round! Blue dragons are nasty in this edition because of the extreme rage of that at-will lightning blast. [/QUOTE]

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